ScribeGT6817 wrote:maletoaofwater wrote:11) Compare the size of a Toa to the size of Mata Nui. In that ratio, the Toa and Matoran would be considered nanotech, and they were intended to serve the same function.
22) No, mechanical parts are non-living inanimate objects that have never been alive, and there is no proof the Mask of Life works on those. If it could, then it could not only change lifeforms, etc., but it could build buildings and construct vehicles. Having a cyborg implant does not change the fact that the implant is not alive.
33) I disagree. The Vision was sapient when he was created in the comics,but was programmed to kill the Avengers and he then broke that programming. The Matoran were intended to do one thing -- work -- and not to aspire to more, but they did aspire to more (Takua was basically glitched from the start).
4About #3...Takua was the first Matoran ever created. Was that why he "was basically glitched from the start"?
Firox555 wrote:ScribeGT6817 wrote:
1One more thing that occured to me: Velika may have felt that it would be easier to blend in with a society-machine where all the beings were sentient, like him. Otherwise, he might be like a germ in our own bodies - an outsider, something that the machine might eventually eliminate in self defense. Does this make sense?
2One other, slightly unrelated thing - do you think that some Great Beings would have favored different elements? In the same way, for example, that some LEGO Designers might favor different sets that they made, or different themes? Might Velika have favored the Element of Stone, seeing as he took a Po-Matoran's body, or was this unimportant to him?
31) Yes, it does. Velika would not have been able to just follow a pre-programmed way of life for 1000 years.42) It's possible, certainly.
51) This makes sense. Are there any of these theories that we've come up with that you like the best? Do you have any preferred reason for Velika giving them sentience as of yet?
62) In a related area, I've been wondering: Just how benevolent are/were the Great Beings? Mata Nui himself seems to imply that they were wise and good - were all the GB's benevolent at the start, and then, like humans, some became bad or went insane? Are some GB's still good and would want to stop Velika, were they to know what he wants to do?
73) On that thought, have the other GB's thought about where Velika went? They probably would have missed him after a while.
84) Lastly, what exactly is Velika's moral situation? Is he bad through and through, like Teridax, or is he just confused, or (I find this idea interesting) does he genuinely believe that he is doing the right thing?
9Greg, I think that these questions got buried, along with the following post.
Firox555 wrote:ScribeGT6817 wrote:maletoaofwater wrote:1So it seems to me that if they have one, then they have the other. When takua was talking to gali in karda nui before Mata nui originally booted up, he sure seemed like he had sapience - mere nanotech can't aspire to become something greater (he wanted to become a toa). So as for how they gained that trait, I think they always had it, but due to the way they were treated by the GBs, they behaved the way they were expected to, aka as a machine would. Then when they were in the robot away from anyone who might bring behavioral expectations on them, they began to realize they were thinking, rational, independent beings - their creators had effectively genetically engineered a new species. I think the role velika played in that was that he was the first individual to begin treating his fellow matoran as real people, and so people who interacted with him realized their true nature, and as more people interacted with those people, the effect spread, and the self-oppression exponentially ended.2I think I disagree. I think something did change at some point down the line ... if not, when events caused the Matoran to forget their original purpose, then there would have been nothing to replace it. I see the Matoran as nanotech capable of a) communication among themselves and b) capable of problem-solving. But the idea of breaking away from their programming, of being "good" or "evil" would not have been part of their original design. Something caused that to happen.
3This is interesting - in regards to Takua's behavior, wanting to become a Toa himself may have been a result of his "problem solving" program. The original purpose of Toa was to solve a problem, after all - does this make sense, Greg?
4(Speaking of which, I recently read Swamp of Secrets. Thanks for that book, Greg - definitely my favorite bionicle book yet, along with Time Trap.)
5I think this got buried, along with the above post.
- 1Have Mazeka and Alternate Teridax met with the Order of Mata Nui? If they were to meet, would the Order be likely to recruit Teridax?
- 2Can Gaardus use Kanohi powers, like that of his Great Hau? For that matter, can Phantom (who has a similar origin story) use Kanohi powers?
- 3Is anyone planning to make use of the Exo-Toa on Spherus Magna? Or will they likely just be abandoned?
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! ScribeGT6817 wrote:Malurus2000 wrote:1Hey Greg,
21. Have you ever watched any Godzilla movies, and if so, do you like them?
32. I'm getting sort of confused right now. So you're saying Matoran are AI, and yet are "alive". How?
43. Which comic super hero universe do you prefer: MARVEL or DC?
51) The ones I have liked best were the more modern ones made in the '90s
62) Virtually all of the beings we have met in the MU are a combination of living tissue and mechanical parts, so yes, they are alive.
73) I like aspects of both, but I am reading more Marvel these days
8Hey Greg, the Ninjago book, Comet Crisis, I saw the episode that you were talking about with the side story when the Ninja go to space and go to the planet Arcturus. Does your comic envolve with Arcturus in your story?
geek7534 wrote:geek7534 wrote:1Hello, Greg. Did you had a good holiday?
2Did you had the time to think about the other kraata powers that tahu can have?
3I think you have omitted this ^^'
4Otherwise, I've questions about Velika.5When he transferred his consciousness into a Po-Matoran body, this body was created for the occasion or he stole the body to a Matoran already alive?
6If the second option is the good one, the Matoran's consciousness/IA was completely delete or it is always inside the body, blocked by Velika's mind (a little as Dekar-Hydraxon and Dekar's mind)?
71) I believe it would have been a case that the Matoran had been created but the consciousness did not yet exist, so there was no mind to delete or overlay.
fighterlord wrote:ScribeGT6817 wrote:maletoaofwater wrote:11) Compare the size of a Toa to the size of Mata Nui. In that ratio, the Toa and Matoran would be considered nanotech, and they were intended to serve the same function.
22) No, mechanical parts are non-living inanimate objects that have never been alive, and there is no proof the Mask of Life works on those. If it could, then it could not only change lifeforms, etc., but it could build buildings and construct vehicles. Having a cyborg implant does not change the fact that the implant is not alive.
33) I disagree. The Vision was sapient when he was created in the comics,but was programmed to kill the Avengers and he then broke that programming. The Matoran were intended to do one thing -- work -- and not to aspire to more, but they did aspire to more (Takua was basically glitched from the start).
4About #3...Takua was the first Matoran ever created. Was that why he "was basically glitched from the start"?
5Could be
Firox555 wrote:
11) This makes sense. Are there any of these theories that we've come up with that you like the best? Do you have any preferred reason for Velika giving them sentience as of yet?
22) In a related area, I've been wondering: Just how benevolent are/were the Great Beings? Mata Nui himself seems to imply that they were wise and good - were all the GB's benevolent at the start, and then, like humans, some became bad or went insane? Are some GB's still good and would want to stop Velika, were they to know what he wants to do?
33) On that thought, have the other GB's thought about where Velika went? They probably would have missed him after a while.
44) Lastly, what exactly is Velika's moral situation? Is he bad through and through, like Teridax, or is he just confused, or (I find this idea interesting) does he genuinely believe that he is doing the right thing?
5Greg, I think that these questions got buried, along with the following post.
61) Not a preferred theory, no, but I do think we can take as a given that Velika was responsible.
72) To answer your last question first, yes, some would try to stop him, probably most. But as for good or bad .. they were scientists, Scientists discover cures for diseases -- or unleash plagues -- not out of good or evil, but because they CAN.
83) He probably made a big show of going into exile so they wouldn't be concerned about him
94) He definitely believes he is doing the right thing. Conquerors usually do. He feels that a lack of direct control by the GBs caused the crisis, and he is determined to remedy that.
PointlessQuestions wrote:
- 1Have Mazeka and Alternate Teridax met with the Order of Mata Nui? If they were to meet, would the Order be likely to recruit Teridax?
- 2Can Gaardus use Kanohi powers, like that of his Great Hau? For that matter, can Phantom (who has a similar origin story) use Kanohi powers?
- 3Is anyone planning to make use of the Exo-Toa on Spherus Magna? Or will they likely just be abandoned?
41) I don't think so, no. The OOMN doesn't really hang up signs advertising where they are
52) No
63) I think they will be put to some use