Official Greg Dialogue

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#11441
It depends on how you look at it. I personally think Destiny is more focused on, but everyone has their opinion.
#11442
toa boroka
Lexuk Toa Of Insanity
No, the storm did happen in the MU, in the Silver Sea.

Alright then, thanks for correcting me. I should have checked

Arguably, that storm was being caused by the Weather Control ability of Makuta Teridax.
#11443
double post sorry.
#11444
S.P.R.K
*onua nuva* fan
Electric Turahk
If your sole intention is to get something accepted into canon because you want to say you have, then you are not working towards the betterment of the story itself - rather, just for personal fame, however little it may be. It is this I have a problem with, and always will. I don't care what the particular thing in question is - in this case, though, I do find having to name claws something a bit absurd. They're claws, and that's all that need be said about them.

~|ET|~

This all assumes it was for fame. How would you feel if the person preferred being anonymous?

I'm pretty sure it wasn't for fame as the person who originally posted that hasn't come to defend their idea or anything like that.
Soon the whole story may be in the hands of the fans so now would be a good time to Encourage ideas like this

I don't think it's for fame, but simply an idea. On the other hand, I don't think a name is necessary because the Makuta simply shapeshifted himself some claws. It's not a separate tool or weapon, like the Staff of Darkness or the Tridax Pod.
#11445
Kopaka -Toa Nuva of Ice
S.P.R.K
*onua nuva* fan
Electric Turahk
If your sole intention is to get something accepted into canon because you want to say you have, then you are not working towards the betterment of the story itself - rather, just for personal fame, however little it may be. It is this I have a problem with, and always will. I don't care what the particular thing in question is - in this case, though, I do find having to name claws something a bit absurd. They're claws, and that's all that need be said about them.

~|ET|~

This all assumes it was for fame. How would you feel if the person preferred being anonymous?

I'm pretty sure it wasn't for fame as the person who originally posted that hasn't come to defend their idea or anything like that.
Soon the whole story may be in the hands of the fans so now would be a good time to Encourage ideas like this

I don't think it's for fame, but simply an idea. On the other hand, I don't think a name is necessary because the Makuta simply shapeshifted himself some claws. It's not a separate tool or weapon, like the Staff of Darkness or the Tridax Pod.

Can't we find somewhere else to settle this? The OGD really isn't the place.
#11446
As wonderful as it is to get things named, why are we caring about weapons that appeared for a short while when only about 6 of the many races in the MU actually have names.
I mean, for fan fiction and stuff you can't really say "Sidorak's species" or "That species from Stelt that is socially in between Sidorak's species and Gladiator's species"
I think we should definitely get more names.
Maybe names for the following species:

All 3 Stelt inhabitant species
Axonn's
Brutaka's
Botar's
#11447
rawr.
As wonderful as it is to get things named, why are we caring about weapons that appeared for a short while when only about 6 of the many races in the MU actually have names.
I mean, for fan fiction and stuff you can't really say "Sidorak's species" or "That species from Stelt that is socially in between Sidorak's species and Gladiator's species"
I think we should definitely get more names.
Maybe names for the following species:

All 3 Stelt inhabitant species
Axonn's
Brutaka's
Botar's


If Greg could have simply used made-up names for things like that, he would have done it already.
#11448
Aravagantos
rawr.
As wonderful as it is to get things named, why are we caring about weapons that appeared for a short while when only about 6 of the many races in the MU actually have names.
I mean, for fan fiction and stuff you can't really say "Sidorak's species" or "That species from Stelt that is socially in between Sidorak's species and Gladiator's species"
I think we should definitely get more names.
Maybe names for the following species:

All 3 Stelt inhabitant species
Axonn's
Brutaka's
Botar's


If Greg could have simply used made-up names for things like that, he would have done it already.


So what's stopping him?
What's the difference between saying "yup, that race is called that." and "yup, that weapon is called that."

#11449
rawr.
Aravagantos
rawr.
As wonderful as it is to get things named, why are we caring about weapons that appeared for a short while when only about 6 of the many races in the MU actually have names.
I mean, for fan fiction and stuff you can't really say "Sidorak's species" or "That species from Stelt that is socially in between Sidorak's species and Gladiator's species"
I think we should definitely get more names.
Maybe names for the following species:

All 3 Stelt inhabitant species
Axonn's
Brutaka's
Botar's


If Greg could have simply used made-up names for things like that, he would have done it already.


So what's stopping him?
What's the difference between saying "yup, that race is called that." and "yup, that weapon is called that."


Because all the Bionicle-sounding names have to be approved by Lego.
#11450
rawr.
Aravagantos
rawr.
As wonderful as it is to get things named, why are we caring about weapons that appeared for a short while when only about 6 of the many races in the MU actually have names.
I mean, for fan fiction and stuff you can't really say "Sidorak's species" or "That species from Stelt that is socially in between Sidorak's species and Gladiator's species"
I think we should definitely get more names.
Maybe names for the following species:

All 3 Stelt inhabitant species
Axonn's
Brutaka's
Botar's


If Greg could have simply used made-up names for things like that, he would have done it already.


So what's stopping him?
What's the difference between saying "yup, that race is called that." and "yup, that weapon is called that."



He has to clear made-up names through Legal, and I believe it costs 10,000$ each.
#11451
Aravagantos
rawr.
Aravagantos
rawr.
As wonderful as it is to get things named, why are we caring about weapons that appeared for a short while when only about 6 of the many races in the MU actually have names.
I mean, for fan fiction and stuff you can't really say "Sidorak's species" or "That species from Stelt that is socially in between Sidorak's species and Gladiator's species"
I think we should definitely get more names.
Maybe names for the following species:

All 3 Stelt inhabitant species
Axonn's
Brutaka's
Botar's


If Greg could have simply used made-up names for things like that, he would have done it already.


So what's stopping him?
What's the difference between saying "yup, that race is called that." and "yup, that weapon is called that."



He has to clear made-up names through Legal, and I believe it costs 10,000$ each.



Yeah, it costs $10,000 for each name they have to send through legal, so LEGO is not going to want to waste that money on something like this, unfortunatly :PAnd then, if the name isn't approved by legal, well LEGO is out $10,000, so they also want to make sure the names they pick are good.
#11452
Junic
Aravagantos
rawr.
Aravagantos
rawr.
As wonderful as it is to get things named, why are we caring about weapons that appeared for a short while when only about 6 of the many races in the MU actually have names.
I mean, for fan fiction and stuff you can't really say "Sidorak's species" or "That species from Stelt that is socially in between Sidorak's species and Gladiator's species"
I think we should definitely get more names.
Maybe names for the following species:

All 3 Stelt inhabitant species
Axonn's
Brutaka's
Botar's


If Greg could have simply used made-up names for things like that, he would have done it already.


So what's stopping him?
What's the difference between saying "yup, that race is called that." and "yup, that weapon is called that."



He has to clear made-up names through Legal, and I believe it costs 10,000$ each.



Yeah, it costs $10,000 for each name they have to send through legal, so LEGO is not going to want to waste that money on something like this, unfortunatly :PAnd then, if the name isn't approved by legal, well LEGO is out $10,000, so they also want to make sure the names they pick are good.


Well, he doesn't have to use it officially, but he could just say 'I'm fine with fans calling it that'

#11453
*sigh* I will reply to give you an answer, but afterwards, please stop this discussion... :(

He can't do that, since he is employee of The LEGO Group and all BIONICLE names have to be copyrighted and trademarked by them, which costs 10.000 $, as the others pointed out.

Regarding your point about 'I'm fine with fans calling it that' - he is fine if fans call them whatever they like, but only in fan fiction - no canon source (web serials, books, comics) will ever mention these names. And they won't be mentioned on any canon wiki (e.g. BS01).

Now please move on and start posting Greg quotes again - these off-topic debates are annoying to say the least.
#11454
Nuhrii the Metruan
Now please move on and start posting Greg quotes again - these off-topic debates are annoying to say the least.


Gee, I'd like to do that, but Greg just pmed me and said his server was down all day yesterday. Which might explain the small question/answer flow.

X-Ray.
#11455
Hey GregF,
2. Did Nikila, Krakua, Jovan, Dume, and Lesovikk all have the same masks as Matoran then they did as Toa?
Thanks for your time.

2) Makes sense to me.

2. And how about Lhikan? Did he wear the same mask as a Matoran?
3a. Is the gold reptilian being introduced in Reign of Shadows the new villain now that Teridax is gone?
3b. Do you have plans on naming the being once you get your list of new names?
3c. Is the being male or female?

2) Yes
3a) I don't plan on having just one new villain.
3B) I hope to, depending on when I get the list
3dc) Male
#11456
Wow, I really thought Goldy would be a one-shot guy. That's kinda neat to have someone that awesome to fight. Or rather, succumb to.
#11457
I really, really hope someone frees the Mahri....
#11458
Erebus
Hey GregF,
2. Did Nikila, Krakua, Jovan, Dume, and Lesovikk all have the same masks as Matoran then they did as Toa?
Thanks for your time.

2) Makes sense to me.

2. And how about Lhikan? Did he wear the same mask as a Matoran?
3a. Is the gold reptilian being introduced in Reign of Shadows the new villain now that Teridax is gone?
3b. Do you have plans on naming the being once you get your list of new names?
3c. Is the being male or female?

2) Yes
3a) I don't plan on having just one new villain.
3B) I hope to, depending on when I get the list
3dc) Male



A new villain to replace Teridax? This guy better have a lot of intelligence and personality to top our glorious Makuta.
#11459
Blaze-Wind Master
Erebus
Hey GregF,
2. Did Nikila, Krakua, Jovan, Dume, and Lesovikk all have the same masks as Matoran then they did as Toa?
Thanks for your time.

2) Makes sense to me.

2. And how about Lhikan? Did he wear the same mask as a Matoran?
3a. Is the gold reptilian being introduced in Reign of Shadows the new villain now that Teridax is gone?
3b. Do you have plans on naming the being once you get your list of new names?
3c. Is the being male or female?

2) Yes
3a) I don't plan on having just one new villain.
3B) I hope to, depending on when I get the list
3dc) Male



A new villain to replace Teridax? This guy better have a lot of intelligence and personality to top our glorious Makuta.


Note that Greg didn't say the new guy would replace Teridax.
#11460
The Iron Toa
No rain in the Matoran Universe? Actually, I don't like that, because rain is an important part of the ecosystem. And I think the domes were generally large enough for their own weather.


You gotta remember...the MU is nothing like our ecosystem...everything is artificial so most likely the local floral and fauna population dont need it. And if they do its most likely provided throuh artificial aquifers or something else along those lines.

Anyways, here's a little something I sent Greg:

Alright, gotta a quick question for you:

In the final comic, I noticed that Tahu put a pretty good beat down on Nektann. Initially, I was goin nuts cuz Tahu is my favourite character and seeing him defeat anyone is always a pleasure for me. But then I got to thinking about it; how was it that Tahu, now a Mata again, defeated a Skakdi Warlord with so much ease, when his entire team of Nuva were treated as rag dolls by the Piraka on Voya Nui. Is it because Nektann isnt as strong as the Piraka were? (Because if thats the case what is he doing bein a Warlord?) Or was it that the last time he and his team encountered Skakdi, they just werent prepared?

thanks abunch .
Tahu-Sensei

p.s.- one last thing-was Tahu melting Nektann's armor?


Think about what Tahu did -- he used his elemental power to melt Nektann's armor. There really was nothing Nektann could do to prevent that, plus it hurts -- a lot -- to have metal melting all over you.


It was nagging at me .
#11461
That explains so much, except for one thing: How come he didn't think of that back on Voya Nui?
#11462
Lexuk Toa Of Insanity
That explains so much, except for one thing: How come he didn't think of that back on Voya Nui?

It would be too much of of a risk as he might kill him.
Now much is at stake so he may be a bit more liberal with the toa code
#11463
S.P.R.K
Lexuk Toa Of Insanity
That explains so much, except for one thing: How come he didn't think of that back on Voya Nui?

It would be too much of of a risk as he might kill him.
Now much is at stake so he may be a bit more liberal with the toa code


Now that I think about it more, it could be that they didnt want to use their full powers. I think if they can take on a full crew of Makuta powerhouses and live, they can most likely dominate the Piraka if they went all out.
#11464
Lexuk Toa Of Insanity
That explains so much, except for one thing: How come he didn't think of that back on Voya Nui?

Tahu tried it on Zaktan, but it didn't work as well on him.
#11465
He did?
#11466
Yes, he used fore against Zaktan, causing burn damage to his sword. But since Zaktan is just protodites, sword included, he healed by adding protodites to the damaged area
#11467
Aravagantos
He has to clear made-up names through Legal, and I believe it costs 10,000$ each.


Somebody wanna provide a quote, becase that sounds like a boatload of rubbish. Any company would be abolutely foolish to spend $10,000 on the name of a character at all, let alone one that wont even be a set.
Last I checked, Greg said all they have to do is check the name for copyrights, then google it to make sure nothing major comes up.
#11468
Takhamavahu
Aravagantos
He has to clear made-up names through Legal, and I believe it costs 10,000$ each.


Somebody wanna provide a quote, becase that sounds like a boatload of rubbish. Any company would be abolutely foolish to spend $10,000 on the name of a character at all, let alone one that wont even be a set.
Last I checked, Greg said all they have to do is check the name for copyrights, then google it to make sure nothing major comes up.


And then they have to pay 10,000 dollars to legally own the name, otherwise any other toy company could buy the names and sue LEGO's products out of existence.
#11469
Aravagantos
Takhamavahu
Aravagantos
He has to clear made-up names through Legal, and I believe it costs 10,000$ each.


Somebody wanna provide a quote, becase that sounds like a boatload of rubbish. Any company would be abolutely foolish to spend $10,000 on the name of a character at all, let alone one that wont even be a set.
Last I checked, Greg said all they have to do is check the name for copyrights, then google it to make sure nothing major comes up.


And then they have to pay 10,000 dollars to legally own the name, otherwise any other toy company could buy the names and sue LEGO's products out of existence.


But BIONICLE are no longer LEGO products. It seems to me that since these new names aren't going to be sets, then LEGO wouldn't have to trademark the names. But I don't know for sure.
#11470
$10,000??? That's ridiculous .
Tahu-Sensei
S.P.R.K
Lexuk Toa Of Insanity
That explains so much, except for one thing: How come he didn't think of that back on Voya Nui?

It would be too much of of a risk as he might kill him.
Now much is at stake so he may be a bit more liberal with the toa code


Now that I think about it more, it could be that they didnt want to use their full powers. I think if they can take on a full crew of Makuta powerhouses and live, they can most likely dominate the Piraka if they went all out.

That makes sense. Because I noticed somewhere on BS01 that it said that the Toa Inika were more lax in obeying the Toa Code and were okay with threatening and harming beings like the Piraka to get their mission accomplished. In stuff like MoL, the Nuva pretty much just used Elemental Powers and didn't really use their weapons. Plus, Tahu realized that it would be stupid to listen to Nektann and just fight without powers. I never heard him doing that on Voya Nui.
#11471
stop getting off-topic :burnmad: :burnmad:
#11472
In this pm from Erebus:
Erebus
Hey GregF,
2. Did Nikila, Krakua, Jovan, Dume, and Lesovikk all have the same masks as Matoran then they did as Toa?
Thanks for your time.

2) Makes sense to me.

2. And how about Lhikan? Did he wear the same mask as a Matoran?
3a. Is the gold reptilian being introduced in Reign of Shadows the new villain now that Teridax is gone?
3b. Do you have plans on naming the being once you get your list of new names?
3c. Is the being male or female?

2) Yes
3a) I don't plan on having just one new villain.
3B) I hope to, depending on when I get the list
3dc) Male


3a. might imply that Goldy will be returning as a recurring character, and is not just a one shot villain, although I am not convinced. So is he just a one-shot villain at the moment, or do you plan to use him for a while?


All I said was, he is not going to be the one and only villain post-Teridax. As far as how long he will be around for, the answer is for as long as I find him interesting to write about.


This should clear a few things up.
#11473
On Nuva vs Piraka, I'm sure the Toa under-estimated them. Thats why the battle wasn't as one-sided the second time. Plus, destiny got in the way.

Hopefully Goldy isn't a one-shot villain. He seems interesting.

-GRESHIOS
#11474
Aravagantos
Takhamavahu
Aravagantos
He has to clear made-up names through Legal, and I believe it costs 10,000$ each.


Somebody wanna provide a quote, becase that sounds like a boatload of rubbish. Any company would be abolutely foolish to spend $10,000 on the name of a character at all, let alone one that wont even be a set.
Last I checked, Greg said all they have to do is check the name for copyrights, then google it to make sure nothing major comes up.


And then they have to pay 10,000 dollars to legally own the name, otherwise any other toy company could buy the names and sue LEGO's products out of existence.

They dont have to pay anything. the copyright check and the google test are done to prove that they created the name. you dont have to pay for something you created. All they'de need to do if they got sued is prove that they used the name first, which is easy to keep on record.
There is absolutely no way that they coughed up $10,000 for every name.
#11475
I don't know about $10 000, but I know that they do need to pay for to legally own the name.

-GRESHIOS
#11476
Greg has said it many a time. Why would you doubt his continual answer about the money?

And if you look at leaked names, Google them, things will appear. Companies, other words in other languages, etc. So it's not like the names only exist for BIONICLE in every case. Heck, most 09 names were Latin, such as "Gelu" being "frost", I believe (something ice based, I think it was frost. I'd have to double check).
#11477

Got a couple new diologues to add so tat they may be added to the farshtey feed:

Hi, there a couple controversies occurring on BZP.

1) It seems likely that the air in the MU would be the very same as the air on SM, for when the toa and matoran emerged, they did not suffocate. This means that they breathe in the same substance. And when the GB built the MU, the robot would have already been filled with their air. Furthermore, they would have already created the first matoran on Bara magna, so the matoran must have already been designed to breathe SM air. Are my conclusions correct?

2) There seems to be some confusion relating to the two (or three) forms of crystalline protodermis.
a. There is an ice-like, frozen liquid protodermis, correct?
b. There is the crystal protodermis that six toa can create, such as the Metru did to stop Teridax?
c. And lastly, many are under the belief that the Knowledge towers in Ko-Metru are of a completely different form of protodermis than the former two. Can you confirm this?

Thanks again .

1) Makes sense, yes.
2) I have already been asked this by Onua Nuva Fan this week, so you should talk to him.


Look at the protodermis topic to see the answer to #2, I cannot remember the specifics, though a. and b. were right

Hello Greg, four questions here . . .

1a) I know that the ground of the Island of mata nui was made of protodermis, though any water and ice found there must be Aqua magna water, correct?
1b) And I was under the impression the matoran must drink liquid protodermis, correct? So what did they drink on the island of mata nui?

2) It would seem as though rahi do eat (correct me if I am wrong), so do matoran and toa eat? As above, I had thought they drank water, so might they need to eat as well? There was no reason to discuss this in past storyline, though it would be interesting to know.

3) Sorry, but do Glatorian/Agori eat/drink?

4) What was the fate of the Bahrag, along with the Bohrok?

Thanks again .


1) The ocean water was indeed not liquid protodermis, but you don't drink ocean water anyway. The water drunk on Mata Nui was pumped from underground via wells, so it was liquid protodermis
2) Yes, Matoran and Toa do eat, just not like we do. They don't need to chew and swallow (neither do Rahi, but most are too dumb to know that). They eat by making physical contact with certain kinds of things, like fruit or fish, and absorbing energy directly from those objects.
3) Yes
4) The Bahrag will leave the MU and relocate to Spherus Magna, somewhere. The Bohrok are asleep, so the shutdown of the robot won't affect them since they don't require heat, light or air in this state.


I really meant what happened to them after the MU took off, because they seemed to be on the surface Yet now, indirectly, I uppose I go my anwer (they were inside the MU). Anywhoo . . .

:m_p: :e: :a: :c: :e:


#11478
1. because i havent heard this supposed continual answer
2. because it goes against everything i know about copyright law, money, and simple logic

i know you have to pay to copyright something, but not $10000 for a name, and you dont need to copyright it to use it, you just need to make sure nobody else copyrighted the name before you did, so its likely that the only names that are copyrighted are the names of sets.
#11479
As someone who has had experience with the US copyright and trademark offices, I can safely say that a copyright is free, and that a patent or trademark can cost less than $300.00.
#11480
Ciano
As someone who has had experience with the US copyright and trademark offices, I can safely say that a copyright is free, and that a patent or trademark can cost less than $300.00.

How much does a team of lawyers run? ;)