Wilmerkardell wrote:

1So, while reading up on the timeline of the Toa Hagah, I found a very big hole. . .

 

2Spiriah had a team of Toa Hagah

3>Spiriah's failure was over 70,000 years ago

4>"No One Get's Left Behind" is stated to take place "over 7,000 years ago"

5 >Teridax's team wasn't formed until after that story, and if I recall correctly, he was the first to have a Hagah team

 

6So, I see two solutions to this:

71. "No One Get's Left Behind" takes place some time between 80,000 years ago 70,000 years ago. (The DH were formed in that time frame) However, then the problem comes with Triglax being stated to have joined the DH 7,000 years ago, but that might just be an assumption taken due to No One Get's Left Behind's time frame.

8or

92. Norik's team wasn't Teridax's first Hagah team.

PointlessQuestions wrote:10Triglax was never stated to have joined the DHs exactly 7,000 years ago. He's stated to have joined the DHs "many centuries" before No One Gets Left Behind, which itself was over 7,000 years ago. Problem solved!

11Well, I guess. So, the question then becomes: Did "No One Get's Left Behind" take place 80,000 between 70,000 years ago, when the Dark Hunters were still young but Spiriah had not yet made his 'failure'?

12Where is the the 'over 7,000 years ago' even from?

1Hi Greg,

2Brutaka was mutated by the Pit Mutagen to grow spikes all over his body, including a large dorsal fin on his back, as well as becoming a water-breather. He and the others that were sent to the Great Being's prison fortress were on Bota Magna at the time that it was reunified with Spherus Magna. So would Mata Nui's de-mutation wave using the Ignika have affected them? Is Brutaka now amphibious and no longer has spikes?

ScribeGT6817 wrote:

druzyna wrote:1In MNOG and Maze of Shadows(game) rahi are reffered to elements. Example: Tarakava - Water, Nui-Rama - Air.21)Is this even canon?32)Are there rahi which are reffered to other than Toa Mata elements?43)Is it only for Matoran to classify rahi?

53) Yes. The same way we refer to different life forms as "creatures of the sea" or "creatures of the air."

6In a Matoran's mind -- what constitutes a Rahi?

7I know the word 'Rahi' means 'not us' but by the logic, Vortixx, Makuta, etc. would be classified as Rahi.

8Furthermore: if the scientific definition of a Rahi is a being made using viruses and protodermis -- then why don't Matoran use that definition instead?

9As a small side question: Does Keetongu's species fit the scientific definition of a Rahi, or was his species made without using viruses?

1Considering this is such a small detail in the story, I thought I would suggest an idea I had.

2Keetongu lived with the other members of his species on the island in the east chain of the Southern Islands. His species was known for using Tahtorak as mounts, so the tribes kept some nearby in their village. Mostly though, the two species lived separately.
3The Order had heard of the Visorak terrorizing islands, and had been tipped off that Keetongu's island was next to be attacked. Removing the species of Rahi that could reverse Visorak poison was not something that the Order wanted, so they sent Trinuma as a diplomat. Without revealing which organization he worked for, Trinuma tried in vain to use his Mask of Charisma. The tribal leader of Keetongu's species believed all of this to be made-up, as their island was very closed off from the outside world. Trinuma didn't want an entire species gone, so he pleaded with the tribal leader. Eventually, after some effort and charm, Trinuma convinced the tribal leader who sent Keetongu with Trinuma to see if the new island was safe.
4Trinuma brought Keetongu to the hideaway in Ko-Metru, wrote down instructions on the Great Temple, and promised to return with the others of his species. By the time Trinuma returned to the island, the Visorak had overrun the remaining members of Keetongu's species -- Trinuma was too late. Some Tahtorak living in the village were gone, but the ones on the plains were not. The Visorak knew they could not take on herds of Tahtorak, so they only challenged Keetongu's species.

5Distraught and ashamed that he could not save all of Keetongu's people, Trinuma couldn't bear to see Keetongu again. He returned to Daxia with a heavy heart while Keetongu sat, waiting for Trinuma to return until the Rahaga and Hordika found him.

druzyna wrote:11)Yes, but was Mata Nui made from protodermis? I'm pretty sure, that it was made on Aqua Magna(which is non-protodermical) with Energized protodermis, so are we really certain that Mata Nui is from protodermis?22)Yes, but it could not work like that. Example: Protodermical lightning don't create magneism at all or protodermical cold can be opposite to non-protodermical heat by being energy in this reality.33)And things, that aren't built with protodermis, can work different in our world.

4lightning, fire, and energy in general didn't have protodermic counterparts - protodermis was a form of matter, not energy. Those were just normal...

mrcqm wrote:

ScribeGT6817 wrote:

druzyna wrote:1In MNOG and Maze of Shadows(game) rahi are reffered to elements. Example: Tarakava - Water, Nui-Rama - Air.21)Is this even canon?32)Are there rahi which are reffered to other than Toa Mata elements?43)Is it only for Matoran to classify rahi?

53) Yes. The same way we refer to different life forms as "creatures of the sea" or "creatures of the air."

6In a Matoran's mind -- what constitutes a Rahi?

 

7I know the word 'Rahi' means 'not us' but by the logic, Vortixx, Makuta, etc. would be classified as Rahi.

 

8Furthermore: if the scientific definition of a Rahi is a being made using viruses and protodermis -- then why don't Matoran use that definition instead?

 

9As a small side question: Does Keetongu's species fit the scientific definition of a Rahi, or was his species made without using viruses?

10remember, makuta could have created matoran if they wanted to using the same methods they used to create rahi, they simply did not wish to.