1I believe him, but I just want to know why Lewa Krom asked for a Huna and and a warhammer. And why is Naho referred to as [Naho]. Clearly he's only showing us part of the question.
2I really hope this doesn't make it into the canon, honestly. We have two Hau users already, and the warhammer thing has lost all its novelty. It was fine on Alt Teridax, but it lost the appeal on Artahka, and now some random Toa has it. I'd rather not have it happen again.
3Adding to what the others said Artakha doesn't wear a Hau. He has the Mask of Creation, the description of which you can see in RoS
1You mean Huna, not Hau?
2Woops. Dangers of skimming.I guess I don't mind the Huna as much, it's not so cliched. Nonetheless, this seems like the sort of thing that should've been polled, as others have said.
3But with so many different mask powers in the canon, it would be quite difficult for a poll to be made.
1I believe him, but I just want to know why Lewa Krom asked for a Huna and and a warhammer. And why is Naho referred to as [Naho]. Clearly he's only showing us part of the question.
2I really hope this doesn't make it into the canon, honestly. We have two Hau users already, and the warhammer thing has lost all its novelty. It was fine on Alt Teridax, but it lost the appeal on Artahka, and now some random Toa has it. I'd rather not have it happen again.
3Adding to what the others said Artakha doesn't wear a Hau. He has the Mask of Creation, the description of which you can see in RoS
4Um....wow.
5Nor does Alt Teridax. I was talking about the warhammer.
6(That was a tad bit of a correction fail, there.)
1Trinuma's mask "poll" was fine, but yeah.
1The Huna was actually my idea. >.< 2I thought it fit, seeing as she did a lot of sneaking around... 3It would explain how she managed to sneak through the Dark Hunter lines in the Toa/DH war.
4It's true that normally polls are done, but we can't have a poll everytime we need to canonize something, it'll just get tedious, and Greg didn't have anything against it, so why not?
4It's true that normally polls are done, but we can't have a poll everytime we need to canonize something, it'll just get tedious, and Greg didn't have anything against it, so why not?
1Guys, does it really matter? He's making a movie, so he wants some confirmation. If you guys really want to know if it's true, just PM Greg.
1Not contests, but GregF seems to want to make polls for these kinds of things, and that's why BS01 has been making polls for element colors. 2Hmm, at least Kakama makes sense because we know that a Toa Mangai wore that.
3Wasn't the Kakama-wearer killed at the Sea Gate, while Naho was killed at Odina?
1Good for the movie guys. They can do whatever the heck they want. That's why it's fan-made.
2But to randomly ask for this to be made canon without even the main storyline guys knowing a thing about it?
3No, this is utter and complete stupidity.
4I'm with you, pretty much.
5(Although ET, you have to be a lot nicer to people. Both here and on BS01)
1Good for the movie guys. They can do whatever the heck they want. That's why it's fan-made.
2But to randomly ask for this to be made canon without even the main storyline guys knowing a thing about it?
3No, this is utter and complete stupidity.
4I'm with you, pretty much.
5(Although ET, you have to be a lot nicer to people. Both here and on BS01)
6Yes. Please. Just because you disagree with someone or something does not give you the right to call it 'utter and complete stupidity'. If you disagree with it, that's fine, but if you're going to toe the line with flaming, that's not.
7Not trying to argue with a Forum Assistant/Reference Keeper, but someone asked a question for approval and he got it... And the "main storyline guys do know about this because he posted it here. 8Again, I'm definatly not trying to start anything with you Elecris Turahk. I respect you in many ways and would never try to start anything.
1I don't really see what the big deal is here. Naho wore a Huna and weilded a warhammer. Big deal. It's canon. Just because he asked if it could be canon doesn't make it instantly wrong or non-canon. Why is this so controversial?
2Besides, it's not like we'd be getting any details on her any time soon anyway. I think it's pretty cool-- now MOCers and artists have some reference for her mask and weapon.
2Besides, it's not like we'd be getting any details on her any time soon anyway. I think it's pretty cool-- now MOCers and artists have some reference for her mask and weapon.
1Good for the movie guys. They can do whatever the heck they want. That's why it's fan-made.
2But to randomly ask for this to be made canon without even the main storyline guys knowing a thing about it?
3No, this is utter and complete stupidity.
4I disagree; they want it to be as canon as possible, and this helps them. Also, every single aspect of storyline does not need to be approved by a pol . Greg must like the idea, otherwise he would not have canonized it. And Greg rejects a lot of ideas.
5-TN05
1Good for the movie guys. They can do whatever the heck they want. That's why it's fan-made.
2But to randomly ask for this to be made canon without even the main storyline guys knowing a thing about it?
3No, this is utter and complete stupidity.
4I'm with you, pretty much.
5(Although ET, you have to be a lot nicer to people. Both here and on BS01)
6Yes. Please. Just because you disagree with someone or something does not give you the right to call it 'utter and complete stupidity'. If you disagree with it, that's fine, but if you're going to toe the line with flaming, that's not.
7Not trying to argue with a Forum Assistant/Reference Keeper, but someone asked a question for approval and he got it... And the "main storyline guys do know about this because he posted it here. 8Again, I'm definatly not trying to start anything with you Elecris Turahk. I respect you in many ways and would never try to start anything.
9You misunderstood what I said. They alerted us after the fact, not before they started fertively planning all of this without the wider knowledge of the community. Here's a direct quote:
10It's a long story. Basically, Greg allowed us (me and a few others) to send him names to get approved by Lego for teams like the Toa Mangai, Jovan's team, Lesovikk's team, etc. We weren't sure how we were going to pull the whole thing off and weren't sure who to PM to join the "project." (some people on here are rather intimidating). The names would be used in an episode series (with the help of BNG) and some serials/short stories we were thinking of. We were going to get the rest of BZP involved soon. BTW, if you read my blog at all, which I doubt, this is the AHEM we are talking about. If you think we shouldn't do this, then we'll hold off and drop the project. Again, sorry. I'll ask Greg to "un-confirm" this is you want.
11This isn't really for the Bionicle: Next Generation movie series. I should have told some of the main story people earlier. I'm very sorry for what happened.
12Continuing below...
13I don't really see what the big deal is here. Naho wore a Huna and weilded a warhammer. Big deal. It's canon. Just because he asked if it could be canon doesn't make it instantly wrong or non-canon. Why is this so controversial?
14Besides, it's not like we'd be getting any details on her any time soon anyway. I think it's pretty cool-- now MOCers and artists have some reference for her mask and weapon.
15Good for the movie guys. They can do whatever the heck they want. That's why it's fan-made.
16But to randomly ask for this to be made canon without even the main storyline guys knowing a thing about it?
17No, this is utter and complete stupidity.
18I disagree; they want it to be as canon as possible, and this helps them. Also, every single aspect of storyline does not need to be approved by a pol . Greg must like the idea, otherwise he would not have canonized it. And Greg rejects a lot of ideas.
19-TN05
20There was no discussion, not even an alert - nothing. A small group of members (I don't even know who all it is) decided to go and get a wide array of things made canon for their own purposes, not for the benefit of the storyline. It's fan-made. It can be as canon as possible by sticking to the canon we already know - not making their ideas canon. Like I said before, everyone is entirely entitled to do what they want in fanon. THAT'S WHY FANON EXISTS. You don't write it to be made official, you write it for the joy of making your own stories. That is entirely different than what was done, though.
21~|ET|~
22EDIT: And for the record, when I referenced the "community," that's what I meant by "main storyline guys." All of us that frequent this forum - in no way was it about some other select few that, for whatever reason, people see me as thinking I belong to.
1I don't understand the problem here. Regardless of why they did it, a group of people thought of an idea. They asked Greg if he agreed with it, and if he would make it canon and he did agree, and made it canon. It's not so different as when NtM canonised Nektann as a skakdi warlord. He didn't announce on here that he planned to ask whether it should be canon or not. He didn't need to ask permission. They are doing a project and want to know if certain things could be considered canon. They have the same chance of being turned down by Greg and now we know a little more detail about the character. Some people may not agree with the details, but they are now part of the story, and the bionicle canon.
1I don't understand the problem here. Regardless of why they did it, a group of people thought of an idea. They asked Greg if he agreed with it, and if he would make it canon and he did agree, and made it canon. It's not so different as when NtM canonised Nektann as a skakdi warlord. He didn't announce on here that he planned to ask whether it should be canon or not. He didn't need to ask permission. They are doing a project and want to know if certain things could be considered canon. They have the same chance of being turned down by Greg and now we know a little more detail about the character. Some people may not agree with the details, but they are now part of the story, and the bionicle canon.
2The problem is that these situations give people the impression that they can ask Greg anything to try and make it canon.
1I wasn't aware of this topic being remade into one intended to attack me. You people know nothing of me. Some of you are going far beyond what I did as merely being stern and turning this into a very personal argument. Yes, I use some force when I talk, because I've come to learn that it helps get my point across. That doesn't at all make me - nor have I ever claimed to be/wanted to be - "elitist" or other such things. I'm not going to stand for that nor acknowledge it again - your posts will just disappear and will continue to do so.
2Toa Robert: The difference between then and now is time. After such things occured and the backlash unleashed every time it happens, I assumed people would realize by now that there are going to be complaints when this route is taken. It's become generally acceptable for cooperation to occur, though - and that wasn't done, which I take exception to. (But the situation, too, is in fact different - they're doing a project entirely for fan purposes. Why does it need to be canon at all?)
3~|ET|~
2Toa Robert: The difference between then and now is time. After such things occured and the backlash unleashed every time it happens, I assumed people would realize by now that there are going to be complaints when this route is taken. It's become generally acceptable for cooperation to occur, though - and that wasn't done, which I take exception to. (But the situation, too, is in fact different - they're doing a project entirely for fan purposes. Why does it need to be canon at all?)
3~|ET|~
1Isn't this whole situation pretty much exactly the same as the debacle with bonesiii asking to make his EM masks canon? Like, exactly?
1Nope, EM actually has some authority.
1But do the people at BNG have any authority? Do they ever make it to the frontpage of BZP?
1Yeah, but why should BNG be able to do this without asking other people?
1Why was bones allowed to canonize his masks without informing people who didn't keep up with his EM?
1I wasn't aware of this topic being remade into one intended to attack me. You people know nothing of me. Some of you are going far beyond what I did as merely being stern and turning this into a very personal argument. Yes, I use some force when I talk, because I've come to learn that it helps get my point across. That doesn't at all make me - nor have I ever claimed to be/wanted to be - "elitist" or other such things. I'm not going to stand for that nor acknowledge it again - your posts will just disappear and will continue to do so.
2I wasn't attacking you. I was stating a fact: you weren't being polite or respectful. I also gave you some advice: it would be nice if you were respectful of others' opinions.
3Anyway, while I agree how the members went about getting the info canonized was not necessarily the best way, I prefer this way to having a month-long contest to decide what mask Naho would wear.
1Bones is a Moderator, and is far more known. He has talked with Greg in the past and the EM is a huge project.
2I just don't think it is fair that these people that barely joined and aren't staffies get to do these things that lots of other members want to do...
3They don't, do they? As far as I know, this is the first time I've seen this kind of thing happen. I think it's just that no one's layed down the rules.
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1Bones is a Moderator, and is far more known. He has talked with Greg in the past and the EM is a huge project.
2I just don't think it is fair that these people that barely joined and aren't staffies get to do these things that lots of other members want to do...
3So, bones sent a random bunch of masks to Greg, and got them canonized for his project. These guys sent some random info to Greg, and got it canonized for their project. It's not okay when they do it, but it's okay when bones does it, because he's a moderator.
4Do I have this right?
1Nice find, Lewa Krom 
anyways, this is getting off topic.
anyways, this is getting off topic.1Perhaps we should have a separate topic for this?
1Well, I wasn't really around for Bone's thing. So I don't know much about it. I just absolutely hate how these B:NG people can do this.
1Well, I wasn't really around for Bone's thing. So I don't know much about it. I just absolutely hate how these B:NG people can do this.
2The simple fact is that bones did exactly the same thing, and we were told to be fine with it. Now everyone's getting bent out of shape because someone who isn't a moderator has done the exact same thing. If bones is allowed to canonize his masks, there is no reason why this should not be allowed.
1Well, I wasn't really around for Bone's thing. So I don't know much about it. I just absolutely hate how these B:NG people can do this.
2The simple fact is that bones did exactly the same thing, and we were told to be fine with it. Now everyone's getting bent out of shape because someone who isn't a moderator has done the exact same thing. If bones is allowed to canonize his masks, there is no reason why this should not be allowed.
3You have a good point. But, B:NG isn't something new, they're just making movies for all of the years of Bionicle. It's not like they'll be making anything up, just getting descriptions for existing things.
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