#11601
Hot Pants
Lewa Krom
1What bonesiii did was very different.

2Oh? Do explain how, please.


3Bonesiii made something up and canonized it, and it was completely new. Naho is not new, LK was just confirming the weapon and mask. What Bones did was a bit more major.
4:c:
#11602
Caliga
Hot Pants
Lewa Krom
1What bonesiii did was very different.

2Oh? Do explain how, please.


3He made something up and canonized it, and it was completely new. Naho is not new, LK was just confirming the weapon and mask. What Bones did was a bit more major.
4:c:

5So it was more extreme than this. So we should all be totally fine with this.
#11603
1Bonesiii created 11 Kanohi with Greg's approval. Lewa Krom confirmed a Toa wore a certain mask. There's a big difference.
2I agree that everyone should calm down and just take this in stride, with no need to waste our time un-canonizing Naho's mask and having a month of polling.
#11604
BobaVhett
1Bonesiii created 11 Kanohi with Greg's approval. Lewa Krom confirmed a Toa wore a certain mask. There's a big difference.

2Yes. bones' canonization was a lot more extreme, since it created 11 new things. This is quite minor, compared to that.
#11605
Hot Pants
Caliga
Hot Pants
Lewa Krom
1What bonesiii did was very different.

2Oh? Do explain how, please.


3Bonesiii made something up and canonized it, and it was completely new. Naho is not new, LK was just confirming the weapon and mask. What Bones did was a bit more major.
4:c:

5So it was more extreme than this. So we should all be totally fine with this.


6Did I say that? No. I was just answering your question. I don't think that B:NG has any more right to do that than Bones or anything else.
7:c:
#11606
Caliga
Hot Pants
Caliga
Hot Pants
Lewa Krom
1What bonesiii did was very different.

2Oh? Do explain how, please.


3Bonesiii made something up and canonized it, and it was completely new. Naho is not new, LK was just confirming the weapon and mask. What Bones did was a bit more major.
4:c:

5So it was more extreme than this. So we should all be totally fine with this.


6Did I say that? No. I was just answering your question. I don't think that B:NG has any more right to do that than Bones or anything else.
7:c:

8Why does being a moderator on a Bionicle fansite give bones more of a right to ask Greg to make things canon than any other fan?
#11607
1Just for clarification, this isn't for BNG.
#11608
Hot Pants
Caliga
Hot Pants
Caliga
Hot Pants
Lewa Krom
1What bonesiii did was very different.

2Oh? Do explain how, please.


3Bonesiii made something up and canonized it, and it was completely new. Naho is not new, LK was just confirming the weapon and mask. What Bones did was a bit more major.
4:c:

5So it was more extreme than this. So we should all be totally fine with this.


6Did I say that? No. I was just answering your question. I don't think that B:NG has any more right to do that than Bones or anything else.
7:c:

8Why does being a moderator on a Bionicle fansite give bones more of a right to ask Greg to make things canon than any other fan?


9I didn't say that. He doesn't have any more right to. I didn't say he did. 10Also, right, not B:NG.
11:c:
#11609
Electric Turahk
1I wasn't aware of this topic being remade into one intended to attack me. You people know nothing of me. Some of you are going far beyond what I did as merely being stern and turning this into a very personal argument. Yes, I use some force when I talk, because I've come to learn that it helps get my point across. That doesn't at all make me - nor have I ever claimed to be/wanted to be - "elitist" or other such things. I'm not going to stand for that nor acknowledge it again - your posts will just disappear and will continue to do so. 2~|ET|~

3Not what I meant, just thought that I would tell my opinion. I know your not talking directly about me, but I thought I'd apoligize. The way I read that post was probably not what you meant, although what you said (along the lines of "complete stupidity), I found that a little harsh. And I'm not trying to contribute to this, I respect you and the other higher rankings too much to do so. Sorry.
#11610
1Seriously guys, somone asked a question, Greg was okay with it. And moreover, it wasn't for B:NG. And does it matter that much to you? Just some random canonization isn't okay now, but it was before?
2-GRESHIOS
#11611
1I am very dissapointed in you guys right now. This isn't a big deal. One guy got a whole character named (Nektann), and then another guy gets a trunkload of kanohi canonized. Then, another guy comes along and gets a characters mask and weapon approved for a character that is dead and is not coming back, and you guys get mad? And Remember the whole idea is Greg's choice to approve or not. And just to let you know before you guys accuse anybody of doing anything, this had absolutely nothing to do with B:NG
#11612
1Well, it was so unexpected and why can't normal members do that?
#11613
1Just because you didn't think of it, you shouldn't complain those nonsense.
2What is the big deal? A dead Toa got her weapons and mask canon. That's it . What's so wrong? Is it because me, rawr, and LK is a NEW MEMBER?
#11614
GlatorianJaller
1Well, it was so unexpected and why can't normal members do that?


2Normal members can. If anything GJ, you "rank" over me. It's Greg's decision what he makes canon.
3-LK
4EDIT: ltt. Chill. :P
#11615
1Normal members can do that. It depends on what Greg has in mind or if it doesn't contradict canon for various reasons. I bet any of us could've asked the exact same question and have gotten a "yes" for an answer.
2And what do you mean by "normal"? You're premier, does that count as normal to you?
3-GRESHIOS
#11616
1lol.
2I just don't get why will it bring such controversy XD
#11617
1Yeah, it counts as normal. And I'm not really against this, just wondering why Greg did it, considering he never did stuff like that.
2No, it's not that you are new, I'm very new as well.
3@LK, "ranking" above you? Not really :P
#11618
1GJ, why are you all of the sudden taking our side?
#11619
GRESHIO’S
1Normal members can do that. It depends on what Greg has in mind or if it doesn't contradict canon for various reasons. I bet any of us could've asked the exact same question and have gotten a "yes" for an answer.
2-GRESHIOS


3I think that's the problem. People are getting these things canonized here and there without considering it with everyone else. I personally think that Naho's mask and weapons should have been decided in a poll, just like a lot of other character's masks were. It doesn't have anything to do with your 'rank' here. 4Also, just a little thing that bothered me, being a Premier Member in no way means you're better than anyone else on this website. Also, being newer doesn't make you any worse.
5:c:
#11620
1@Alt, I was always on your side, silly. I'm part of B:NG :P
2I was just a little shocked to see Greg do that.
#11621
1No, it doesn't. But it doesn't make you a normal member (under categories, that is :P)
2Anways, people, I have one thing to say after all this - Instances like this are okay, but you should certainly NOT flood Greg's inbox about canonizing.
3-GRESHIOS
#11622
GRESHIO’S
1No, it doesn't. But it doesn't make you a normal member (under categories, that is :P)
2Anways, people, I have one thing to say after all this - Instances like this are okay, but you should certainly NOT flood Greg's inbox about canonizing.
3-GRESHIOS


4I suppose you're right. I just think that we should hold polls for things like this. We have in the past and it worked fine, so why stop now?
5:c:
#11623
1Won't it be idiotic to hold poll for every single aspect? 2It's not for BNG.
#11624
1A poll would be good, but what do we have to choose from. Mr. Farshtey said a Huna would be okay, so what else? This isn't Trinuma with a new mask or Pouks with a mask shape, this is just what the mask is itself.
2-GRESHIOS
#11625
lewathetoa
1Won't it be idiotic to hold poll for every single aspect? 2It's not for BNG.


3Why would it be idiotic? Say a bunch of people thought that Naho's mask was a Hau, then some random members strolls along and says that he got Greg to canonize her mask being a Huna? And like I said before, polls have been working fine, so why stop now?
4:c:
#11626
1In the Kanohi topic we could brainstorm, and the top 10 popular choices go to the polls.
#11627
Caliga
lewathetoa
1Won't it be idiotic to hold poll for every single aspect? 2It's not for BNG.


3Why would it be idiotic? Say a bunch of people thought that Naho's mask was a Hau, then some random members strolls along and says that he got Greg to canonize her mask being a Huna? And like I said before, polls have been working fine, so why stop now?
4:c:


5I didn't know that's how we were doing it when I sent Greg the PM. I'm seeing if there's a way I can fix it so that there can be a poll.
6-LK
#11628
1If u guys are that insisting, there are more than 50 other unmasked Toa.
#11629
Lewa Krom
Caliga
lewathetoa
1Won't it be idiotic to hold poll for every single aspect? 2It's not for BNG.


3Why would it be idiotic? Say a bunch of people thought that Naho's mask was a Hau, then some random members strolls along and says that he got Greg to canonize her mask being a Huna? And like I said before, polls have been working fine, so why stop now?
4:c:


5I didn't know that's how we were doing it when I sent Greg the PM. I'm seeing if there's a way I can fix it so that there can be a poll.
6-LK

7There's no need to fix it. There's no need to make a poll. It's canon. Deal with it. Why this is still a subject of debate escapes me.
#11630
Lewa Krom
Caliga
lewathetoa
1Won't it be idiotic to hold poll for every single aspect? 2It's not for BNG.


3Why would it be idiotic? Say a bunch of people thought that Naho's mask was a Hau, then some random members strolls along and says that he got Greg to canonize her mask being a Huna? And like I said before, polls have been working fine, so why stop now?
4:c:


5I didn't know that's how we were doing it when I sent Greg the PM. I'm seeing if there's a way I can fix it so that there can be a poll.
6-LK


7Alright, that sounds good. 8@lewathetoa- Did you think we would have a poll for every single Toa in the MU? It's just that something was canonized out of nowhere without a poll. Weapons and masks are normal poll subjects, and a decision was made without one. People like to have their opinion involved in things they care about and it wasn't here. That's just how it goes.
9:c:
#11631
1This whole debate is ridiculous IMO. It's the mask of a dead character, and a relatively minor one at that. Greg said yes her having a Huna. End of story. No one complained when NtM got Nektann canonized, or when he got 'Toa Mangai' canonized. We do not need a poll for every aspect of the story, and one would involve multiple rounds of voting due to the sheer number of them. Can we just get over someone canonizing a dead character's mask.
2-TN05
#11632
1So where is the poll if we want Nektann to be a warlord, Bonesiii's 11 masks, and the naming of Toa Mangai?
2Can we stop this pointless debate?
#11633
1Actually, I was against all of those things, Nidhiki05 and Hot Pants.
2I also have no idea why everyone keeps bringing "BIONICLE: Next Generation" up. Okay, it's not part of that. I think we understand that. Why keep stating it?
3Aaand this totally isn't the place to be continuing the discussion - if continuation is at all necessary. I (and others) had disagreements with the way in which this was made canon. Those thoughts were shared here as an immediate response. Now we're going beyond the purpose of this topic and just going in circles.
4We all need to relax - even, particularly, those of you defending it. You're not any better just because of your stance. Saying things like "It's canon. Period. Get over it" can be perceived rude in just the same way as saying it shouldn't be canon.
5~|ET|~
#11634
1Sorry for any rule breaking with this post, but all of page 292 was dealing with the subject of Lewa Krom getting approval from Greg on a Mask and Tool for Naho. Can we PLEASE get back on topic? And take this discussion elsewhere? Please?
#11635
1Hey GregF, just some questions. 21. We know that you plan to name the Toa characters in the new Toa Team serial. Do you also plan to name the Toa Team, once you get the new list of names, of course? 32. Did this Toa Team at least exist prior to the end events of Journey's End or are they a result of the aftermath? 43. If the latter, did they come from other Toa Teams? 55. Assuming that there are three different stories in Graphic Novel 10, what would each have been about? I recall one of the stories would have been about Mata Nui's journey to the Valley of the Maze to unintentionally obtain the Power Source. What would the other two stories have been about? 66. Was Toa Helryx created before the first Matoran, Takua? 77. Do you plan to name that Great Being in chains on Bota Magna, when you get the new list of names? 88. Do you plan on naming the Legendary Mask of Creation still, when you get the new list of names? 99. Is it a safe assumption that you will not use any of the new names from the new list of names for an island or two in the Matoran Universe now that the MU is destroyed? 10Thanks.


111) Most likely -- that would probably not need to wait for the name list 122) Aftermath 133) Yup, and Toa working on their own 145) GN 10 was all one story, not three separate ones. 156) I believe it was stated that the Matoran were created first. 167) If it becomes relevant to do so, which it probably will, yes 178) Depends on if I have a name that works for that. 189) Not unless I wind up with a LOT of names. Remember, this list has to do me through the end of 2011.

191a. Does that mean you already have a name for the team? 201b. Or does that mean you're going to use a pre-existing Matoran word? 212. You said that the Golden Armor was made in the specific event that Antidermis (solid Antidermis) ran amok, correct? 222a. Was this intended to potentially include the Makuta themselves (prior to their evolution), as they initially were crafted out of Antidermis? 232b. Were there other contingincies programmed into the Ignika besides the Golden Armor? It seems weird that the Golden Armor, with its specific function, was the only thing that they thought to make.


241B) No, just that I don't foresee a big problem naming it 252) Other contingencies did exist, but have we actually said that the Makuta were solid antidermis originally? (We may have, I just don't remember)
#11636
1The Makuta one sounds interesting. 2(Thank God it's back to topic)
#11637
1it makes more sense if the GA was designed to destroy antidermis. then its useful: 2-if the BoM goes evil 3-if Teridax takes over the bot and goes evil 4-if the makuta are killed and the Rahkshi run amok. 5-dozens of other cases.

6go to the mainland, get to the Ignika, ask for the armor, then a Mata puts it on. BOOM. no more trouble with superpowered beings.
#11638
Toa Devak: Toa of Energy
1it makes more sense if the GA was designed to destroy antidermis. then its useful: 2-if the BoM goes evil 3-if Teridax takes over the bot and goes evil 4-if the makuta are killed and the Rahkshi run amok. 5-dozens of other cases.

6go to the mainland, get to the Ignika, ask for the armor, then a Mata puts it on. BOOM. no more trouble with superpowered beings.


7It wouldn't make any sense that the GA was designed to destroy Antidermis, otherwise Ignika would have given it to Tahu in Karda Nui.
#11639
Aravagantos
Toa Devak: Toa of Energy
1it makes more sense if the GA was designed to destroy antidermis. then its useful: 2-if the BoM goes evil 3-if Teridax takes over the bot and goes evil 4-if the makuta are killed and the Rahkshi run amok. 5-dozens of other cases.

6go to the mainland, get to the Ignika, ask for the armor, then a Mata puts it on. BOOM. no more trouble with superpowered beings.


7It wouldn't make any sense that the GA was designed to destroy Antidermis, otherwise Ignika would have given it to Tahu in Karda Nui.

8Well, it didn't create the armor until Tren Krom sent it a message telling it to do so.
#11640
Hot Pants
Aravagantos
Toa Devak: Toa of Energy
1it makes more sense if the GA was designed to destroy antidermis. then its useful: 2-if the BoM goes evil 3-if Teridax takes over the bot and goes evil 4-if the makuta are killed and the Rahkshi run amok. 5-dozens of other cases.

6go to the mainland, get to the Ignika, ask for the armor, then a Mata puts it on. BOOM. no more trouble with superpowered beings.


7It wouldn't make any sense that the GA was designed to destroy Antidermis, otherwise Ignika would have given it to Tahu in Karda Nui.

8Well, it didn't create the armor until Tren Krom sent it a message telling it to do so.


9Still, TK was never supposed to tell Ignika anything.